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All right you guys. Time to engage. I'm going to take a little informal poll here. I thought about posting this on one of the highly trafficked message boards, but that can get a little overwhelming. I figure the folks who show up here have good taste, good looks and plenty of discretion. (blogger brown-nose alert)

So, here it is; I'm trying to decide what score to tackle next in our series of rerecordings. What film scores would absolutely make your year to have rerecorded? Let's limit your choices to 5 each.

Leave off Spartacus. Unless some fan wants to finance the project, it simply isn't financially doable, due to the gigantically massive orchestral forces needed.

Now don't misunderstand, the decision is ultimately not up to me. Bob Townson is the producer and he makes the calls (which I'd say he's done a pretty phenomenal job of, don't you agree? 2001 North...hello?) But I thought it would be interesting to take a straw poll, to take the pulse of those of you who buy and collect scores, to see what you are longing for.

And who knows, if we get a strong consensus for something, we'll see what can be done.

Now let's hear from you. Don't be shy.

Cheers,

Joel

Comments (72)

David from France:

Hello !

Alex North would be a great choice. But maybe because we already have many great records of his music (original or rerecordings), I was thinking about some more rare (commercially unfeasable?)beauties. How about some Aaron Copland ?...scores like "Our town", "Red Poney", "the Heiress"...

Walter Shumann's "The Night of the Hunter" ? Is the score available ?

Virgil Thomson ? But his most famous scores are already available on cd...

George Antheil's "The Plainsman" ?

maybe the original film score of Lenny Bernstein's "On the Waterfront" ?

TJ from California:

....since you asked....

1.) Poledouris' Conan the Barbarian.

2.) Korngold's Captain Blood

3.) Korngold's Anthony Adverse

4.) Rozsa's Golden Voyage of Sinbad

5.) Webb's Sinbad the Sailor

Todd:

1 - Barabbas (Nascimbene)
2 - The Viking (Nascimbene)
3 - 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea (P. Smith)
4 - Golden Voyage Of Sinbad (Rozsa)
5 - First Men In The Moon (L. Johnson)

I nice sounding Nascimbene recording is long overdue...

Ron Pulliam:

1. Maurice Jarre -- "Resurrection"
2. Ernest Gold -- "Exodus"
3. David Raksin - "Separate Tables"
4. John Williams "Poseidon Adventure" (possibly backed with "Black Sunday"
5. Miklos Rozsa - "Quo Vadis"

Thanks for asking!

Henry:

NIGHT OF THE HUNTER
CAPTAINS AND THE KINGS
PLAYERS
CHARGE AT FEATHER RIVER
THE VIKINGS

shureman:

Delerue:

- SWORD OF GIDEON
- ESCAPE FROM SOBIBOR
- PARIS BY NIGHT
- RAPTURE
- NOBODY RUNS FOREVER

Steve in LA:

I agree with David that all of Aaron Copland's scores should be recorded in full, but I think someone else is working on that. Anyway, here are my choices:

HANGOVER SQUARE (Herrmann)
A DOUBLE LIFE (Rozsa)
A PLACE IN THE SUN (Waxman)
WAR & PEACE (Rota)
EXODUS (Gold)

wild card: JOAN OF ARC (Friedhofer)

Moby Turner:

NIGHT OF THE NUNTER!!!!!

Moby Turner:

I meant HUNTER!!!!

1.)LION & THE HORSE (Steiner)
2.)PARRISH (Steiner)
3.)HERRMANN CBS MUSIC: "Kitty Shot" (Gunsmoke); Nathan Hale;Studio One; Desert Suite; Police Force; House on K Street; Knife in the Darkness (Cimarron Strip);etc)
4.) CRIME CLASSICS Suites (Herrmann)
5.)FRED STEINER tv scores: "The Squaw" (Gunsmoke);various STAR TREK;"Quiet Night In Town" (HGWT); "Call Me Dodie" (Gunsmoke) etc.

Anonymous:

Antill - Corraborree

Herrmann - Beneath the 12-Mile Reef

A.L. Hern:

ANYTHING by Miklos Rozsa, especially

THE GOLDEN VOYAGE OF SINBAD

SAHARA

QUO VADIS (the cues Rozsa didn't record for London/Phase 4 in 1977, which would round out his recording)

FIVE GRAVES TO CAIRO

THE THIEF OF BAGHDAD (complete)

or

THE JUNGLE BOOK (complete)

LADY HAMILTON (THAT HAMILTON WOMAN)

THE FOUR FEATHERS

Also:

Steiner:

THE ADVENTURES OF DON JUAN

Doug Raynes:

We definitely need more Miklos Rozsa rerecordings, especially as Varese have not done any such recordings for very many years. My preferences:

QUO VADIS
A DOUBLE LIFE
GOLDEN VOYAGE OF SINBAD
BRUTE FORCE
FIVE GRAVES TO CAIRO

P Rossen:

Complete versions of

1. Gold...Exodus
2. Herrmann...12 Mile Reef
3. Rozsa..The Jungle Book
4. Rozsa..Thief of Baghdad
5. Rozsa..Quo Vadis

I want to add another vote for each of these:

NIGHT OF THE HUNTER

GOLDEN VOYAGE OF SINBAD

and one I'm not sure is even possible:

Mr. Roberts (Waxman, I think)

I'm a big Herrmann fan so that's probably mostly what you'll see from me ...

1. Obsession (complete)

2. Journey to the Center of the Earth

3. Beneath the 12-Mile Reef

4. Rozsa: Golden Voyage of Sinbad (lousy sound quality on the original, and a poor orchestra)

5. King of the Khyber Rifles

I expect all of these to be finished by next week!

Justin:

In order of impotrance...

Elmer Bernstein - Slipstream

Schumann - Night Of The Hunter

Friedhoffer - Joan Of Arc

Rozsa - Golden Voyage of Sinbad

Poledouris - Conan the Barbarian

Wim van Schaik:

Dear mr. McNeely,
thank you for asking the soundtrack community,
I really hope it will
give you some great ideas
(that are do-able)

1. The Fall of the Roman Empire (Dimitri Tiomkin)
2. Taras Bulba (Franz Waxman)
3. Lost Horizon (Dimitri Tiomkin)
4. a compilation of 'suites' from Kurosawa films (7 Samurai/Hidden Fortress/Dodeskaden/Throne of Blood/Dersu Uzala/Kagemusha/Ran)
5. Twilight Zone TV episodes by Goldsmith

Paul Cote:

These are a handful of the full recordings that would get me to jump up and down:

The Devil and Daniel Webster - Herrmann (astounding that nobody's attempted this yet)

The Jungle Book - Rozsa

Madame Bouvary - Rozsa

Original tracks of both are available in some form, but a full stereo-recording would make them flower.

The Invisible Ray - Waxman

A short suite is simply not enough.

Wuthering Heights - Newman

Need I say more?

Mike Riesenman:

I have to join the Rozsa crowd with my choices.

1. Golden Voyage of Sinbad
2. Quo Vadis
3. The Jungle Book
4. A Rozsa film noir compilation or suite including The Asphalt Jungle, Naked City, Killers, Brute Force, The Red House etc.

Brad Arrington:

1. "The Night Of The Hunter." (Schumann)

2. "Of Mice And Men." (Copland)

3. "Sahara." (Rozsa)

4. "Vera Cruz." (Friedhofer)

5. "One Million B.C." (Heymann)

Brad Wills:

Most definitely THE GOLDEN VOYAGE OF SINBAD.

William McCrum:

Mr. McNeely has opened his portals to us huddled masses. Honour upon honour! 'great idea.

Okay, since this is a Rozsa centenary year, I would go with three scores that need the full treatent and aren't on anyone's 'to do' list that I know of:

(a) 'A Double Life' which was his second oscar, and almost never performed on record. It's a showpiece of his psychological, film noir, and historical styles, and although not as internally elegantly structured as, say, 'Ivanhoe' or 'Julius Caesar' is nonetheless a great score, badly under-represented.

(b) 'The Red House', an absolutely classic score, praised even by Herrmann (!) and never fully represented.

(c) Quo Vadis? Everyone thinks this one is too big, too expensive. Okay, it has a big chorus, but in fact it's not really more than about an hour and a quarter, and much of the stuff is period source that uses small ensembles. I think it's feasible, if you leave out the orchestral suite and book the chamber players seperately.

Two others:
(d) Korngold's 'Juarez'

and (no chance, but I'd love it)

(e) Jerome Moross's complete uncut score for 'The War Lord' including the Salter material, either in suit or as an appendix.

Thanks very much for deigning to ask us.

Richard MacDonald:

We've been spoiled lately with the wealth of Herrmann re-recordings, but I'd love to hear more of his TV work, so I second the call for a recording of:
1. Herrmann's scores for ALFRED HITCHCOCK PRESENTS

And though these are both esoteric choices, they do feature big name composers and really interesting music:
2. ENDLESS NIGHT (Herrmann)
3. HE RAN ALL THE WAY (Waxman)

I'm not a huge Max Steiner fan, but I find this score magical:
4. THE GLASS MENAGERIE (Steiner)

And finally, not as vintage, but still a favorite of mine:
5. SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES (Horner)

In any event, I'm looking forward to hearing what you do next!

John Blankenship:

The Bride Wore Black (Bernard Herrmann)!!
The Fall of the Roman Empire (Dimitri Tiomkin)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (Bernard Herrmann)
Rear Window (Franz Waxman)
It's Alive (Bernard Herrmann)

Mark Smullen:

This is a tough call.

Quo Vadis
The Killers
Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan
Where Eagles Dare
The Last Starfighter

Rich:

Rozsa: Thief of Bagdad
Waxman: Taras Bulba
Hageman: This Woman is Mine
Roemheld: Dracula's Daughter

Joel McNeely:

Wow. What an amazing resource of ideas! Thank you all so much. Many of these scores I don't know and will look forward to following up on all of your great tips.

Keep them coming and thank you,

Joel

David Keenum:

QUO VADIS - Rozsa

THE ADVENTURES OF DON JUAN - Steiner

WHITE WITCH DOCTOR - Herrmann

ON DANGEROUS GROUND - Herrmann

TARAS BULBA - Waxman

Pat B:

Listening to NxNW right now, and most wonderful.

1. Herrmann's Obsession
2. Rozsa Golden Voyage of Sinbad
3. Rozsa Thief of Bagdad
4. Waxman/Crime in the Streets
5. Herrmann/The Man Who Knew Too Much

Ed:

First, wonderful job on NBNW. Bravo.

Herrmann: White Witch Doctor
Rozsa: The Lost Weekend
Rozsa: Double Indemnity
Steiner: The Searchers
Tiomkin: Gunfight At O.K. Corral

Hank Verryt:

Rozsa, The Golden Voyage of Sinbad.
Waxman, Taras Bulba.
and an outsider- Mayuzumi, The Bible. and even more of an outsider, Duning, Salome.

Shu:

We need to consider
1 Popularity of the music
2 Quality of the music
3 Importance on the film music history

Then I can think of only one:
"Quo Vadis" (Rozsa)

Amer Zahid:

My first wish would be:

1) OBSESSION (Herrmann)
2) BEN HUR (Highlights in a 2cd set)
3) THE BRIDE WORE BLACK (Herrmann)
4) THE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE

5)TAXI DRIVER (HERRMANN)

6) INDIANA JONES TRILOGY (Williams)

7) LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (Jarre)

8) A JOHN WILLIAMS SCI-FI COMPILATION cd set

Steve Payne:

1. Think it's about time John Barry's forgotten TV scores of the 70s got a release. An album of suites would be a big seller!
2. Herrmann's Obsession.
3. Herrmann's 12 Mile Reef (Would be great in a new recording.
4. Jerome Moross - Collection of his TV scores.
5. Jerome Moross - Complete War Lord.

John McCammon:

A.Newman: A Certain Smile
M.Steiner: Parrish
D.Tiomkin: Fall of the Roman Empire
B. Herrmann: White Witch Doctor
H. Friedhofer: Soldier of Fortune


Deniz Cordell:

1. Henry Mancini's rejected "Frenzy" score (depending on how much material there is, it could be a double bill with Goodwin's score.)

2. Henry Mancini's "The Great Race."

3. Bronislau Kaper's "Them!"

4. Leonard Rosenman's "Prophecy" (or in fact, any Rosenman music.)

5. Alexander Courage's work in "Superman IV."

and one that I just remembered as I finished the list: Either Jerry Goldsmith's "The Mephisto Waltz" or "Freud."

In any event, I'll be eagerly awaiting the next recording.

Joel McNeely:

This is SO interesting. Thank you for all these great suggestions.

I'm really surprised that Alex North isn't popping up more. I'd have thought he'd be a favorite. He's a favorite of mine, for sure.

And I love all the Rozsa ideas.

Joel

Laurence Mintz:

1.Rozsa--Lust for Life; if not the complete score at least the suite M.R. himself arranged.
2.Korngold--The Constant Nymph or Captain Blood
3. Herrmann--Hangover Square or On Dangerous Ground
4. Anything by the grievously underrecorded David Raksin.
5. Steiner--A complete Casablanca with all the pop tunes (i.e., not just ATGB, sewn into the musical fabric).

Lara:

Anything my Korngold.
Rebecca
Seven Samurai
Complete Cold Mountain Score
The Robe
Wuthering Heights by Alfred Newman
The Black Swam by Alfred Newman

For someone so profoundly important in the industry not enough of his complete music is available.
and Gabriel Yared's score to Cold Mountain is one of the last lush film scores.


Too bad about Spartacus I love that score. Love that film.

Joel McNeely:

Hang on there Lara,

I did a complete re-recording of Rebecca in 2003!

If that's on your wish list, may I suggest iTunes or Amazon? (and no, I don't get a cent of royalties.)

;)

Joel

Joe Rixman aka SheriffJoe:

The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (Andre Previn)

Masada (Goldsmith/Stevens)

Adventures of Don Juan (Steiner)

Quo Vadis (Rozsa)

Journey of Natty Gann (Horner)

EUGENE IEMOLA:

Thanks for inviting us to your brainstorming. If it's at all possible, I'd love to see the following new recordings of:
NOTORIOUS by Roy Webb
STRANGERS ON A TRAIN by Dimitri Tiomkin
WUTHERING HEIGHTS by Al Newman
SEPERATE TABLES by David Raksin and
UNCHAINED by Alex North.

That's my two cents.
Ciao.

Joshua Gizelt:

Okay, since you said "leave off Spartacus" (damn it!), most of these were mentioned by others, but I guess I'll be seconding them:

Schumann: Night of the Hunter
Waxman: Taras Bulba
Korngold: Captain Blood
North: Cheyenne Autumn
Herrmann: White Witch Doctor

Of course, I wouldn't mind any of the Nascimbene suggestions either...

Great work on "North by Northwest," by the way. I can't get into my car without playing 'The Wild Ride' (but at least I'm sober when I'm driving).

Bill Cooke:


Rozsa's THE LOST WEEKEND (would make a fine companion piece to your excellent recording of SUNSET BLVD).

Herrmann's THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER

Rozsa's THE JUNGLE BOOK

Tiomkin's THE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE

Waxman's TARAS BULBA

Hansjoerg Wagner:

QUO VADIS
A DOUBLE LIFE
THE JUNGLE BOOK
LADY HAMILTON
FIVE GRAVES TO CAIRO

Many thanks for asking!

Chat Noir:

Dear Mr.McNeely

It is difficult to choose, but it should be for sure a score from the golden age due to the incredible sound improvement that could be achieved. Maybe Dr.Rozsa's excellent score for The Jungle Book would be great.

Gordon Thomas:

With FSM's OST of Herrmann's On Dangerous Ground as evidence, I would love to hear this score in modern sound.

Also, I agree with many others in choosing Waxman's Taras Bulba. Waxman's own re-recording of selections is fine on its own terms, but the composer was forced to use a reduced orchestra, as many did at the time.

Joe Rixman:

Isn't Taras Bulba being re-recorded by Morgan-Stromberg? Perhaps I misread that on the Film Score Monthly forum...

Joshua Gizelt:

Unfortunately no, that was a joking comment by Franz when "Spartacus" was brought up as a possibility for Morgan/Stromberg (unfortunately Bill Stromberg confirmed later in that thread that such a recording would be a massive undertaking not only because of the orchestral forces but the sheer amount of music involved). There are no (announced) plans for them to record "Taras Bulba."

At the risk of sounding like a parrot again, Mr. Thomas raised another title I think would be an excellent choice, "On Dangerous Ground."

William McCrum:

Sorry to chip in again, I've had my five, but I believe (I could be wrong) that J. Morgan mentioned that Rozsa's 'Five Graves to Cairo' is on his 'to do' list soon, and has even been researched.

Any Alex North at all would be welcome to me also.

Eric Paddon:

1-Quo Vadis (Rozsa)
2-Black Sunday (Williams)
3-Gray Lady Down (Fielding)
4-Advise And Consent (Fielding)
5-The High And The Mighty (Tiomkin)

Green Dolphin Street(Kaper)
A Place in the Sun(Waxman)
Vera Cruz(Friedhofer)
The Children's Hour(North)
The Counterfeit Traitor(Newman)
The Conqueror(Young)

johnbijl:

Great poll!

1. Quo Vadis (that was easy :-) )
2. Lonely are the brave (Goldsmith)
3. A Rawhide-box (Herrman, Tiomkin, Friedhofer, Seiner et al.)
4. Dead men don;t wear plaid (Rozsa)
5. I could do with another Twillight Zone :)

Oh, and Splash Too!

Ed Buller:

Thanks so much for NBNW. It sounds amazing. I am so glad yuo went for so much spot miking.

Please record something by Micheal Small.

1 The Parralax View or

2 Marathon Man

3 Journey to the centre of the Earth Herrmann

4 On Dangerous Ground
Herrmann

5 Star Trek Cues from the first two series. Steiner and Courage mostly.
Some realy lovely music there.

Anonymous:

Hello Mr. McNeely,

thank you for your effort in bringing so many Herrmann scores back to life.

My suggestions for further times:

-BRIDE WORE BLACK [Herrmann]
-Alfred Hitchcok Hour/Presents Episodes (like
TZ in a 2/3 CD-box set) [Herrmann]
-Endless Night [Herrmann]

Markus

Joel McNeely:

Okay John.

Nice. Splash Too? Someone who knows his history obviously.

My first long form! Damn, that was a long time ago.

Old Joel

Joe Caporiccio:

Scores that have had a lot of music cut from them are always interesting - two come to mind
Quo Vadis - Rozsqa wrote and recorded over 95 minutes of music - only 67 ened up in the film.

Taras Bulba - The film was to be a three hour roadshow. Waxan wrote some two hours of music for the three hour version.

Rozsa- That Hamilton Woman
herrmann - White Witch Doctor, Naked and the dead, king of the Khyber Rifles, Prince of Players

North - Unchained

Joshua Gizelt:

Hmmm... "King of the Khyber Rifles" in good sound...

Jim:

Joel,

My package just arrived from Intrada and I'm now finally listening to NORTH BY NORTHWEST in all of its glory. Magnificent!!

1. Copland, THE RED PONY paired with (what else?)...

2. Goldsmith THE RED PONY

3. Amram, THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE

4. Williams, THE RARE BREED

5. Williams, FAMILY PLOT

Cheers
Jim


Greta Brannan:

Joel,

Merry Christmas to you and yours! Been too long since I've posted...

This is tough, but it would come down to:


Rosza - THE GOLDEN VOYAGE OF SINBAD, or QUO VADIS
Gold - EXODUS
J. Williams - FAMILY PLOT
Herrmann - Gotta go with ON DANGEROUS GROUND here!
But did I not read an interview once...in which you said...that you'd like to rerecord TAXI DRIVER - and play the saxophone solo?? :D That might knock that one up to first....

You'll certainly have a tough decision. Thanks for asking for our input, and NxNW really sounds fantastic, great work by all involved!

All the best,
Greta

Maurizio Caschetto:

Hi Joel! It's really lovely you're asking opinions to the soundtrack fan community.

Here's my picks:

. TARAS BULBA (Waxman)
. THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH (Herrmann)
. THE LOST WEEKEND (Rozsa)
. CAPTAIN FROM CASTILE (Newman -- this score really cries for a full-blooded digital recording!)
. ON DANGEROUS GROUND (Herrmann)

Other pretty fine candidates would be: THE SPIRIT OF ST LOUIS (Waxman), DRAGONSLAYER (North), THE JUNGLE BOOK (Rozsa), CAPTAIN BLOOD (Korngold), THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER (Herrmann).

I'm still waiting for my NXNW to arrive... I really can't wait to hear your take on this one.

Thanks for asking! It's appreciated!

Best,
Maurizio
--

David from France:

BEST WISHES to Joel and his family !!! A Happy New Year full of beautiful music !!!

Musical love,


David

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Very difficult to pick just five and I am a bit surprised that stuff that is already being planned is also appearing here. I though eg James Fitzpatrick is actually planning to record complete Lawrence score in the future.

So I'd choose:

Bernstein - Slipstream

Goldsmith - Reincarnation of Peter Proud

Bernstein - Heavy Metall or Ten Commandments (although that is hardly smaller than Spartacus)

Delerue - just anything - eg House on Carroll Streeet would be amazing when masters are confirmed lost

Marco Beltrami - Texas Rangers / Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - that would kill me on the spot to see this announced but one can at least dream, right?

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